Suspension of Rich Jackson

[samsloan]

Dear Mr. Rich Jackson,

I am not involved in your case. I do not know you. I have never
knowingly met you. I know nothing about you. I certainly have nothing
against you.

However, the evidence presented against you was overwhelming. You held
a scholastic chess tournament in Connecticut around two years ago. You
collected money from the kids and their parents, including entry fees
and membership dues. You never sent the tournament results or the
membership forms or the money into the USCF. As as result, these
children never got their memberships or their tournament rated.

Repeated efforts were made to contact you. Certified letters were sent
to you which were returned refused. You could not be reached on the
telephone either. This process passed through several hands including
the local chess organizers in Connecticut and the Tournament Directors
Qualification Committee.

It was said that you gave a box of stuff about this tournament to a
Connecticut chess official and asked him to take care of it, but it
was such a jumbled mess that he could not make anything out of it. He
returned it to you. The last thing that was heard was that you had put
this box of stuff on the front porch of your house and had told him to
come by and pick it up. It is still sitting there.

When you organize and direct a USCF rated tournament, it is your
obligation to send in the results plus the membership fees and rating
fees promptly to the USCF office. This is especially true in a
tournament involving children.

I am sorry that you are having problems with your ex-wife and the
custody of your child but many of us have problems like that. When you
run a USCF rated scholastic tournament it is your obligation to put
those problems aside and take care of the tournament.

This finally came before the board during a board meeting in Stamford,
Connecticut on November 17-18, 2006 where another scholastic
tournament was taking place. You were not there but many scholastic
organizers were present who knew you. You had every opportunity to
appear and present your defense.

We were informed that there was a similar incident involving you
several years ago where you did the same thing, but you finally made
good and were re-instated after a long period of time.

Frankly, I think you got off easy. I feel that the punishment for your
misconduct should have been much more severe. As things stand now, you
can still be reinstated in the USCF provided only that you send in the
tournament report, the documents and the money that you were supposed
to have sent in two years ago.

Very Truly Yours,

Sam Sloan

I will adopt a softer stance of a wait and see policy for now.
I cannot play in a rated game at the club.
They demand items from me that is impossible for me to deliver.
I was not given, nor am I given now, an opportunity to have a fair and
objective review of my actions with me being given an opportunity to
present my side of the matter.
I should have wondered why her office door was always closed and locked.
I would like to know if he is visiting so I can stay away from her
place during those hours so a confrontation can be avoided.
As his mother had 12 accidents/tickets in a four year span of time, I
think it is best if his dad teaches him how to drive who had his last
traffic citation in 1989.
I am deeply saddened that I can no longer compete in WCC tournaments as
I cannot provide the information the USCF is demanding due to computer
damage caused by my son and the President of the CSCA in not sending in the
membership checks to the USCF when I sent them to him last summer.
I have barely $3,000 in the bank due to the divorce.
Frankly, I am bankrupt and I would have never bid to host the tournament
in 2005 if I knew my ex-wife was likely having an affair and a divorce was
barrelling down the highway directly at me.
If the USCF does not give me a chance to present my case then it will be
a cold day in purgetory before I come out of these two suspensions.
If the USCF continues to maintain its screw Rich Jackson approach, who
never got one chance to defend himself and will never get a chance to do
so, my new policy of wait and see goes out the window.
Mr. Goichberg is at the head of the list.
I just want my day in court!
That right, no pun intended, has been stolen from my by the worthless USCF.
As I discovered last year, in the chess world you find a lot of fair
weather friends.
At the club, we are club members and I enjoy his company as an
acquaintance.
When I was able to assist him I always did so and he knew that he could
always count on me.
When Mr. Celone had severe medical problems six years ago, I was on the
phone two or three times a day to his wife or doctors for almost two months.
Now Mr. Goichberg and Mr. Celone are at the head of the posse to hang Rich
Jackson from the nearest branch without him having had a chance to defend
himself.
Fair weather friends describes the USless CF and the CSCA.
Mr. Jackson
In a message dated 5/14/2007 3:27:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Rich,
A clarification: we were just searching for someone to replace John Marino
as a president, due to his other busy commitments, and P. Wright was one of
the members presented with the question; she declined, is not and will not
be WCC president.
I prefer that, based on this information, you consider your wish with John
Marino, who graciously remains the President for as long as it takes, until
there will be an acceptable replacement
Best regards,
Andre

[Rob]

Don't tell us Sam. Write to the man directly and stop trying to look
like you are doing something now. How pathetic!

Post by samsloan
Dear Mr. Rich Jackson,
I am not involved in your case. I do not know you. I have never
knowingly met you. I know nothing about you. I certainly have nothing
against you.
However, the evidence presented against you was overwhelming. You held
a scholastic chess tournament in Connecticut around two years ago. You
collected money from the kids and their parents, including entry fees
and membership dues. You never sent the tournament results or the
membership forms or the money into the USCF. As as result, these
children never got their memberships or their tournament rated.
Repeated efforts were made to contact you. Certified letters were sent
to you which were returned refused. You could not be reached on the
telephone either. This process passed through several hands including
the local chess organizers in Connecticut and the Tournament Directors
Qualification Committee.
It was said that you gave a box of stuff about this tournament to a
Connecticut chess official and asked him to take care of it, but it
was such a jumbled mess that he could not make anything out of it. He
returned it to you. The last thing that was heard was that you had put
this box of stuff on the front porch of your house and had told him to
come by and pick it up. It is still sitting there.
When you organize and direct a USCF rated tournament, it is your
obligation to send in the results plus the membership fees and rating
fees promptly to the USCF office. This is especially true in a
tournament involving children.
I am sorry that you are having problems with your ex-wife and the
custody of your child but many of us have problems like that. When you
run a USCF rated scholastic tournament it is your obligation to put
those problems aside and take care of the tournament.
This finally came before the board during a board meeting in Stamford,
Connecticut on November 17-18, 2006 where another scholastic
tournament was taking place. You were not there but many scholastic
organizers were present who knew you. You had every opportunity to
appear and present your defense.
We were informed that there was a similar incident involving you
several years ago where you did the same thing, but you finally made
good and were re-instated after a long period of time.
Frankly, I think you got off easy. I feel that the punishment for your
misconduct should have been much more severe. As things stand now, you
can still be reinstated in the USCF provided only that you send in the
tournament report, the documents and the money that you were supposed
to have sent in two years ago.
Very Truly Yours,
Sam Sloan

I will adopt a softer stance of a wait and see policy for now.
I cannot play in a rated game at the club.
They demand items from me that is impossible for me to deliver.
I was not given, nor am I given now, an opportunity to have a fair and
objective review of my actions with me being given an opportunity to
present my side of the matter.
I should have wondered why her office door was always closed and locked.
I would like to know if he is visiting so I can stay away from her
place during those hours so a confrontation can be avoided.
As his mother had 12 accidents/tickets in a four year span of time, I
think it is best if his dad teaches him how to drive who had his last
traffic citation in 1989.
I am deeply saddened that I can no longer compete in WCC tournaments as
I cannot provide the information the USCF is demanding due to computer
damage caused by my son and the President of the CSCA in not sending in the
membership checks to the USCF when I sent them to him last summer.
I have barely $3,000 in the bank due to the divorce.
Frankly, I am bankrupt and I would have never bid to host the tournament
in 2005 if I knew my ex-wife was likely having an affair and a divorce was
barrelling down the highway directly at me.
If the USCF does not give me a chance to present my case then it will be
a cold day in purgetory before I come out of these two suspensions.
If the USCF continues to maintain its screw Rich Jackson approach, who
never got one chance to defend himself and will never get a chance to do
so, my new policy of wait and see goes out the window.
Mr. Goichberg is at the head of the list.
I just want my day in court!
That right, no pun intended, has been stolen from my by the worthless USCF.
As I discovered last year, in the chess world you find a lot of fair
weather friends.
At the club, we are club members and I enjoy his company as an
acquaintance.
When I was able to assist him I always did so and he knew that he could
always count on me.
When Mr. Celone had severe medical problems six years ago, I was on the
phone two or three times a day to his wife or doctors for almost two months.
Now Mr. Goichberg and Mr. Celone are at the head of the posse to hang Rich
Jackson from the nearest branch without him having had a chance to defend
himself.
Fair weather friends describes the USless CF and the CSCA.
Mr. Jackson
In a message dated 5/14/2007 3:27:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Rich,
A clarification: we were just searching for someone to replace John Marino
as a president, due to his other busy commitments, and P. Wright was one of
the members presented with the question; she declined, is not and will not
be WCC president.
I prefer that, based on this information, you consider your wish with John
Marino, who graciously remains the President for as long as it takes, until
there will be an acceptable replacement
Best regards,
Andre- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

[Ralph]

"Rob" <> Don't tell us Sam. Write to the man directly and stop trying to
look

Post by Rob
like you are doing something now. How pathetic!

Hey retard. Don't you ever have any other note to play on your magic flute?
Do you realize what a fucking asshole you are? Has anyone ever met you in
person and held you accountable for your mouth? Do you have a wife or
girlfriend or are you busy fisting yourself every night as you take shots at
Sloan?

[Rob]

Post by Ralph
"Rob" <> Don't tell us Sam. Write to the man directly and stop trying to
look

Post by Rob
like you are doing something now. How pathetic!

Hey retard. Don't you ever have any other note to play on your magic flute?
Do you realize what a fucking asshole you are? Has anyone ever met you in
person and held you accountable for your mouth? Do you have a wife or
girlfriend or are you busy fisting yourself every night as you take shots at
Sloan?

LOL

[samsloan]

Rich Jackson, whose life membership has been suspended, it starting to
send increasingly crazy rants attacking the board. Some members of the
board are becoming increasingly concerned.

In case some of these letters get into general circulation, I want to
explain the general gist of the case.

Rich Jackson is a big scholastic organizer in Connecticut. He runs a
chess school. However, when Grandmaster Alex Sherzer was arrested on a
charge of attempted statutory rape a few years ago, Rich Jackson
traveled to Alabama at his own expense to testify AGAINST Sherzer and
try to have him locked up for a long time. Fortunately, Sherzer beat
the case.

In 2005, Jackson ran a big scholastic tournament with around one
hundred children as players. He hired several assistant TDs to help
him, but he was in charge.

After the tournament was over, Rich Jackson failed to send in to the
USCF a tournament report or the membership dues and forms he had
collected from the players.

Eventually, Bill Hall negotiated a settlement with Jackson. However,
Jackson reneged on the deal and did not keep his end of the bargain.

The matter went to Tim Just and the Tournament Directors
Qualifications Committee. After due deliberations, the Just Committee
recommended a permanent ban on directing tournaments and a revocation
of his life membership, especially since this was Jackson's second
offense.

The matter came before the Executive Board at the meeting in Stamford
Connecticut on November 17-18, 2006. Jackson was informed by certified
mail of his right to be heard.

Jackson never appeared at the hearing, although he lived nearby. He
claims that he never opened the certified letter and therefore did not
know about it.

At the meeting on November 18, 2006, the soft-hearted Executive Board
imposed a lesser penalty than that recommended by the Just Committee.

Jackson claims that he was never informed of the decision of the
Executive Board. However this too was because he never opened the
certified letter that was sent to him.

Now, because his life membership was suspended, he no longer receives
Chess Life magazine. He also can no longer play in USCF rated
tournaments. He is on the banned list.

With that background, here is one of the many crazy letters the board
has received recently from Rich Jackson.

In a message dated 6/3/2007 3:10:02 AM Eastern Daylight, Time Rich
Jackson wrote:

I noticed that you did not object to my claims of what happened in LA
or Las Vegas. Therefore, they become proof positive.

I am deleting Mr. Sloan's email as he is an idiot and knows nothing. I
am also deleting Mr. Goichberg. I now delete you as you are an idiot
too! Checks made out to the USCF more than a year after the event
cannot be deposited.

That is a federal fraud offense and Mr. Goichberg has sent me emails
encouraging me to such things.

Duh!

Wake up!

Does anyone know that my son spilled a beverage on my laptop in late
August which has made it impossible for me to access Pair Plus?

Like your five other board members, you tried me in absentia, without
notification, and I was hanged. I was not even notified of this until
almost five months after the fact.

The EB members are bastards. I had a rough year.

Fudge you!
Mr. Jackson

[Chess One]

Sloan does not represent what Jackson said of his own circumstances, as is
typical of Sloan's posts, which //always// blame other people. Sloan himself
has not agreed to be interviewed about his own behavior, and so it goes...

Mr. Jackson encountered substantial personal difficulty relating to his
financial situation, and did not seem, to me, to me in the least bit
shirking of his responsibility, and honestly displayed his personal
condition in vulnerable manner, that, at present, he could not honour his
debt to USCF.

Sloan slams him, absent this reference, which Sloan knows, but fails to
represent. What a face of an honest reporter! Least of all about himself
where Sloan evades ALL questions.

Phil Innes
Vermont

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----- Original Message -----
From: "samhsloan" <***@ishipress.com>
To: <fide-***@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 5:21 PM
Subject: [fide-chess] Re: Suspension of Rich Jackson


Rich Jackson, whose life membership has been suspended, it starting to
send increasingly crazy rants attacking the board. Some members of the
board are becoming increasingly concerned.

In case some of these letters get into general circulation, I want to
explain the general gist of the case.

Rich Jackson is a big scholastic organizer in Connecticut. He runs a
chess school. However, when Grandmaster Alex Sherzer was arrested on a
charge of attempted statutory rape a few years ago, Rich Jackson
traveled to Alabama at his own expense to testify AGAINST Sherzer and
try to have him locked up for a long time. Fortunately, Sherzer beat
the case.

In 2005, Jackson ran a big scholastic tournament with around one
hundred children as players. He hired several assistant TDs to help
him, but he was in charge.

After the tournament was over, Rich Jackson failed to send in to the
USCF a tournament report or the membership dues and forms he had
collected from the players.

Eventually, Bill Hall negotiated a settlement with Jackson. However,
Jackson reneged on the deal and did not keep his end of the bargain.

The matter went to Tim Just and the Tournament Directors
Qualifications Committee. After due deliberations, the Just Committee
recommended a permanent ban on directing tournaments and a revocation
of his life membership, especially since this was Jackson's second
offense.

The matter came before the Executive Board at the meeting in Stamford
Connecticut on November 17-18, 2006. Jackson was informed by certified
mail of his right to be heard.

Jackson never appeared at the hearing, although he lived nearby. He
claims that he never opened the certified letter and therefore did not
know about it.

At the meeting on November 18, 2006, the soft-hearted Executive Board
imposed a lesser penalty than that recommended by the Just Committee.

Jackson claims that he was never informed of the decision of the
Executive Board. However this too was because he never opened the
certified letter that was sent to him.

Now, because his life membership was suspended, he no longer receives
Chess Life magazine. He also can no longer play in USCF rated
tournaments. He is on the banned list.

With that background, here is one of the many crazy letters the board
has received recently from Rich Jackson.

In a message dated 6/3/2007 3:10:02 AM Eastern Daylight, Time Rich

Jackson wrote:

I noticed that you did not object to my claims of what happened in LA
or Las Vegas. Therefore, they become proof positive.

I am deleting Mr. Sloan's email as he is an idiot and knows nothing. I
am also deleting Mr. Goichberg. I now delete you as you are an idiot
too! Checks made out to the USCF more than a year after the event
cannot be deposited.

That is a federal fraud offense and Mr. Goichberg has sent me emails
encouraging me to such things.

Duh!

Wake up!

Does anyone know that my son spilled a beverage on my laptop in late
August which has made it impossible for me to access Pair Plus?

Like your five other board members, you tried me in absentia, without
notification, and I was hanged. I was not even notified of this until
almost five months after the fact.

The EB members are bastards. I had a rough year.

Fudge you!
Mr. Jackson

[samsloan]

Here is another Rich Jackson letter that just came in.

I ask you, should we show some leniency towards this nice man and let
him back in the USCF, even without his paying the membership dues of
the children from whom he took money?:

In a message dated 6/3/2007 10:35:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
RICHSCHESS writes:

I suggest you remove me from your advertising list. Essentially the
USCF Exec Board, headed by your good buddy, have place me under a
lifetime ban as a player. To get reinstated they demand items that
are now impossible to provide. I do emphasize IMPOSSIBLE!!!

Those mean spirited SOB's even took away my magazine subscription
since December and I am a life time member. The EB never even
bothered to notify me in advance or after the fact. I only found out
about the 11/20 vote on 4/13. Friday the 13th for sure.

Screw the USless CF.

I want my money back you mean spirited SOB's. Oh heck, why don't I
just put it in language they might understand, You sons (and daughter)
of a bitch. The EB is made up of liars and thieves.

I was never given a chance to defend myself. Sometimes bad things
happen to good people. However, good people sometimes get pushed to
far.

Screw the USless CF.

I hope the USless CF EB likes emails as I am only getting warmed up!
"Enjoy your summer!"

Rich Jackson

[Mike Murray]

Post by samsloan
I ask you, should we show some leniency towards this nice man and let
him back in the USCF,

Only if he agrees to become our FIDE representative.

[Sam Sloan]

The suspension of Rich Jackson as a USCF member has just been lifted.

The board voted 7-0 to lift the suspension after Bill Hall notified
the board that he had received a "wall chart" of the scholastic event
held two years ago that Jackson had never sent in for rating.

Sam Sloan

[samsloan]

[quote="xplor"]Sam,Does this have something to do with your problem
with first-time USCF members being able to receive a no magazine USCF
tournament membership for only one dollar?[/quote]

No. You are confusing Rich Jackson with Richard Peterson. Rich Jackson
is in Connecticut. Richard Peterson moves around between Arizona,
California and Nevada with his various wives and children.

But, now that you have brought this up, Richard Peterson has just
returned too. It seems that the old gang is returning. Stan Booz,
Bruce Draney, Stan Vaughan, Richard Peterson and a bunch of other old
denizens of rgcp have been coming back (to haunt us) since the
election. Only Tom Dorsch and Tim Hanke have not checked in yet, plus
Tom Klem who is dead.

Sam Sloan

[samsloan]

[quote="xplor"]This experiment must come up quite often in Sam's
circle of acquaintances.

Sam, you list Richard Crespo and Richard Jackson as witnesses to the
one-dollar deal between Frank Niro and Jim Eade.[/quote]

Yes. That is true. They were there and as soon as Jim Eade got the one
dollar deal on behalf of Richard Peterson, Richard Crespo and Rich
Jackson asked for the same deal, which of course they did not get
because they did not have the political clout that Jim Eade had.

However, that was a coincidence. That had nothing to do with the
reason that Jackson's Life Membership in the USCF was suspended three
years later nor does it have anything to do with the fact that Crespo
was subsequently sentenced to 20 years in prison.

On the Jackson reinstatement, I would have asked a few questions
before voting so quickly to reinstate him. Was the "wall chart"
Jackson submitted a complete ratings report for the tournament that
was held in 2004 or 2005? Was it newly created or was it something
that had been lying in that box for the past two years? Will the
children involved finally get the ratings and memberships for which
they paid more than two years ago? Will they just get their money
back?

Sam Sloan

[samsloan]

New News:

The thread entitled "Suspension of Rich Jackson" has just been
censored and removed from the USCF Issues Forum.

I am waiting to hear the reason for this.

It is an absolute fact that Rich Jackson was suspended as both a USCF
member and a TD by vote of the board on November 17, 2006.

On August 30, 2007 the board voted 7-0 to reinstate the USCF
Membership of Jackson but did not vote to reinstate his TD
certification.

See BINFO 200701694

As things presently stand Jackson is not a certified TD. It is
important for the members to know this so that they know that any
tournament directed by Rich Jackson will probably not be rated.

I am utterly astounded that the thread "Suspension of Rich Jackson"
was pulled, because it is a subject the members are entitled to know
about.

Sam Sloan

[samsloan]

[quote="Moderator6"][quote="samsloan"][quote="Moderator6"]Three
members of the FOC instructed me to remove your thread "Suspension of
Rich Jackson".

I believe they will send you an official notice, this is just an
informal heads-up since I removed the thread.[/quote]

What is the basis for this?

There is no question that Rich Jackson was suspended by the board on
November 17, 2006 and then reinstated last week.

What possible objection could there be to reporting these facts?

Sam Sloan[/quote]Like I said, this was an FOC decision, though I do
believe I agree with them. Rich Jackson isn't a public figure and we
don't generally discuss disciplinary actions against members on the
forums.

I think you should ask the FOC for the official reason, however. This
was just my interpretation.[/quote]

We certainly do. Rich Jackson was suspended as both a player and as a
TD. His name should be on the suspended list both to inform tournament
directors that he is not allowed to enter USCF rated tournaments and
to inform players that his tournaments will probably not be USCF
rated.

It is an absolute fact that Rich Jackson was suspended as both a USCF
member and a TD by vote of the board on November 17, 2006.

On August 30, 2007 the board voted 7-0 to reinstate the USCF
Membership of Jackson but did not vote to reinstate his TD
certification.

See BINFO 200701694

As things presently stand Jackson is not a certified TD. It is
important for the members to know this so that they know that any
tournament directed by Rich Jackson will probably not be rated.

I am utterly astounded that the thread "Suspension of Rich Jackson"
was pulled, because it is a subject the members are entitled to know
about.

Sam Sloan

[Chess One]

Sam Sloan might be too busy to post this here himself, so I'll do him the
favor:
====

The thread entitled "Suspension of Rich Jackson" has just been
censored and removed from the USCF Issues Forum.

I am waiting to hear the reason for this.



How do you feel about censorship of criticism of opinions of former EB
members? I was sent the following:


EXPLANATION OF ACTION

Your post SteveTN wrote:
SteveTN 12467003
Post:66981
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:31 am
Thread: Polgar attends Chess-in-Education Conference in Scotland

ueschessmom points out the important fact: Good things for chess and
US chess may have been accomplished in Aberdeen.

It seems that a certain small faction is determined to do what they
can to sabotage the new EB because they have been ousted. It is time for
those of us that are interested in the advancement of US Chess, despite who
may hold positions in governance, renounce those who wish to attack
governance simply because they no longer have any governance power. The
former EB member who has been emasculated by the membership and wishes to
drag the rest of us down with him, as evidenced by his last three threads,
should be banished from us, by us, and we should get on with the business of
extending the role of chess in American society, instead of listening to the
impotent ramblings of a disaffected malcontent.
_________________
Steve Owens in Tennessee - Just a USCF Member -
http://sdo1.blogspot.com/
????? ????
has been removed.

(BOLD was added by "complaints" to emphasize the parts the FOC deemed
objectionable.)

So, Sam Sloan, you complained when much worse things were written about
Polgar and Truong and were removed. How about some complaining when people
are censored for criticizing *your* opinions?

[samsloan]

Post by Chess One
Sam Sloan might be too busy to post this here himself, so I'll do him the
====
The thread entitled "Suspension of Rich Jackson" has just been
censored and removed from the USCF Issues Forum.
I am waiting to hear the reason for this.
How do you feel about censorship of criticism of opinions of former EB
EXPLANATION OF ACTION
SteveTN 12467003
Post:66981
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:31 am
Thread: Polgar attends Chess-in-Education Conference in Scotland
ueschessmom points out the important fact: Good things for chess and
US chess may have been accomplished in Aberdeen.
It seems that a certain small faction is determined to do what they
can to sabotage the new EB because they have been ousted. It is time for
those of us that are interested in the advancement of US Chess, despite who
may hold positions in governance, renounce those who wish to attack
governance simply because they no longer have any governance power. The
former EB member who has been emasculated by the membership and wishes to
drag the rest of us down with him, as evidenced by his last three threads,
should be banished from us, by us, and we should get on with the business of
extending the role of chess in American society, instead of listening to the
impotent ramblings of a disaffected malcontent.
_________________
Steve Owens in Tennessee - Just a USCF Member -http://sdo1.blogspot.com/
????? ????
has been removed.
(BOLD was added by "complaints" to emphasize the parts the FOC deemed
objectionable.)
So, Sam Sloan, you complained when much worse things were written about
Polgar and Truong and were removed. How about some complaining when people
are censored for criticizing *your* opinions?
--
Steve in Tennessee

Wait a second! As almost everyone here knows, I am opposed to
censorship. If I were not opposed to censorship, I would certainly
remove the postings by SteveTN and Phil Innes both of whom attack me
every day.

With regard to the remarks above, I never criticized the board on
either topic. With regard to the Suspension of Rich Jackson, I merely
reported what happened, which was that on November 17, 2006 the board
of which I was a member suspended both the membership and the TD
certification of Rich Jackson for failing to send in a tournament
directors and ratings report for a large scholastic tournament that
had been held two years earlier and for failing to send in the
membership dues that he had collected at that tournament, and that on
August 30, 2007, the board reinstated his membership only after Rich
Jackson finally sent in a wall chart for the same tournament.

Nothing that I wrote can be construed as criticism of the board.

Regarding the topic, "Polgar attends Chess-in-Education Conference in
Scotland", I merely asked whether the USCF was paying the travel
expenses of Polgar and Truong. In no way did I criticize them for
attending the conference. To the contrary, I commended them for
attending the conference in Scotland, just as long as the USCF and its
members do not have to pay for it.

With regard to the third item that was removed, "False Claims by
Polgar" I posted this on September 2, which was three days ago. Mr.
Truong came on line several times in those three days and responded to
several other postings but never responded to this one.

It is perfectly obvious that the claim now appearing on the USCF
website that Polgar won the Woman's World Championship four times is
false, because everybody knows that she only won it one time. As to
the claim that Polgar is rated in the top three women in the world,
that is obviously false too as anyone can look at the official FIDE
rating list and see that Pia Cramling, a very feminine woman, is rated
number three in the world and Polgar is not even rated in the top ten.
As to the claim that Polgar was the first woman ever to qualify for
the ("Men's") World Championship Cycle, the fact is that Pia Cramling
played in several FIDE zonal and interzonal events in the world
championship cycle and Polgar has NEVER played in a FIDE zonal or
interzonal event, although she did play once in the 1993 PCA
interzonal (and finished last in a field of 54).

As to SteveTN's complaint, I would not have removed his posting if I
had been a moderator. I would welcome his trying again to express his
views on the USCF Forum, and even trying to post my reply above.

Sam Sloan

[Chess One]

Post by Chess One
So, Sam Sloan, you complained when much worse things were written about
Polgar and Truong and were removed. How about some complaining when people
are censored for criticizing *your* opinions?
--
Steve in Tennessee | sdo1.blogspot.com
"We're the land of the free for one reason only: We're also the home

of the

Post by Chess One
brave." ---Peter Collier

Wait a second! As almost everyone here knows, I am opposed to
censorship. If I were not opposed to censorship, I would certainly
remove the postings by SteveTN and Phil Innes both of whom attack me
every day.

**Steve from Tennessee wrote of critizing Sam Sloan's //opinions//. Sam
Sloan cannot differentiate that from 'attacking him', from from SteveTn or
anyone else.

<...>

Regarding the topic, "Polgar attends Chess-in-Education Conference in
Scotland", I merely asked whether the USCF was paying the travel
expenses of Polgar and Truong. In no way did I criticize them for
attending the conference. To the contrary, I commended them for
attending the conference in Scotland, just as long as the USCF and its
members do not have to pay for it.

**A somewhat McCarthyite 'question'. In fact no critique is offered why
anyone should or should not attend a conference, and instead there is simply
more of Sam Sloan's opinions. While I do not agree with Eric Johnson's sense
of the worth of the Conference to USCF, at least he attempted a rationale of
them.

<...>

As to
the claim that Polgar is rated in the top three women in the world,
that is obviously false too as anyone can look at the official FIDE
rating list and see that Pia Cramling, a very feminine woman, is rated
number three in the world and Polgar is not even rated in the top ten.
As to the claim that Polgar was the first woman ever to qualify for
the ("Men's") World Championship Cycle, the fact is that Pia Cramling
played in several FIDE zonal and interzonal events in the world
championship cycle and Polgar has NEVER played in a FIDE zonal or
interzonal event, although she did play once in the 1993 PCA
interzonal (and finished last in a field of 54).

**Does this mean that Pia Cramling needed to qualify to the championship by
playing in tournament that would admit her if she were successful, and that
Susan Polgar did not need to do so?

As to SteveTN's complaint, I would not have removed his posting if I
had been a moderator. I would welcome his trying again to express his
views on the USCF Forum, and even trying to post my reply above.

**When you are accuser, judge jury and prosecutor all in one, and the
subject is your own behavior, do you not think this is a little rich? It is
as immoderate as is possible to be! Sam Sloan /did/ ban Rob Mitchell for
questioning two aspects of his //behavior// - the contra-HIPPA ones, which
Sam Sloan later denied he had contravened, and also because Rob Mitchell
asked questions about the content of Sam Sloan's web-site, and if he
understood many people resent that material since it is sexist? Rob Mitchell
had just the previous month taken Louis Blair to task for chronically
evading his own 'actions' at Wikipedia, and in defence of Sam Sloan.

**Quite evidently, Sam Sloan does not address any social topics at all, just
what is convenient for his image and his self-concerns. I am tired of
presenting every issue through the Sloan-filter, since so very little
emerges from it that has aught to do with anyone else.

Phil Innes
---

Sam Sloan

[Rob]

Post by samsloan

Post by Chess One
Sam Sloan might be too busy to post this here himself, so I'll do him the
====
The thread entitled "Suspension of Rich Jackson" has just been
censored and removed from the USCF Issues Forum.
I am waiting to hear the reason for this.
How do you feel about censorship of criticism of opinions of former EB
EXPLANATION OF ACTION
SteveTN 12467003
Post:66981
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:31 am
Thread: Polgar attends Chess-in-Education Conference in Scotland
ueschessmom points out the important fact: Good things for chess and
US chess may have been accomplished in Aberdeen.
It seems that a certain small faction is determined to do what they
can to sabotage the new EB because they have been ousted. It is time for
those of us that are interested in the advancement of US Chess, despite who
may hold positions in governance, renounce those who wish to attack
governance simply because they no longer have any governance power. The
former EB member who has been emasculated by the membership and wishes to
drag the rest of us down with him, as evidenced by his last three threads,
should be banished from us, by us, and we should get on with the business of
extending the role of chess in American society, instead of listening to the
impotent ramblings of a disaffected malcontent.
_________________
Steve Owens in Tennessee - Just a USCF Member -http://sdo1.blogspot.com/
????? ????
has been removed.
(BOLD was added by "complaints" to emphasize the parts the FOC deemed
objectionable.)
So, Sam Sloan, you complained when much worse things were written about
Polgar and Truong and were removed. How about some complaining when people
are censored for criticizing *your* opinions?
--
Steve in Tennessee

Wait a second! As almost everyone here knows, I am opposed to
censorship. If I were not opposed to censorship, I would certainly
remove the postings by SteveTN and Phil Innes both of whom attack me
every day.

Not true. You can't handle the truth, or my line of questioning!

Post by samsloan
With regard to the remarks above, I never criticized the board on
either topic. With regard to the Suspension of Rich Jackson, I merely
reported what happened, which was that on November 17, 2006 the board
of which I was a member suspended both the membership and the TD
certification of Rich Jackson for failing to send in a tournament
directors and ratings report for a large scholastic tournament that
had been held two years earlier and for failing to send in the
membership dues that he had collected at that tournament, and that on
August 30, 2007, the board reinstated his membership only after Rich
Jackson finally sent in a wall chart for the same tournament.

So he gave you what you wanted and then was allowed back in?
Interesting. Oh.. but others were involved so you couldn't keep him
out forever could you?

Post by samsloan
Nothing that I wrote can be construed as criticism of the board.
Regarding the topic, "Polgar attends Chess-in-Education Conference in
Scotland", I merely asked whether the USCF was paying the travel
expenses of Polgar and Truong.

B.S.! eg : Have you stopped beating your wife, Mohamed?

Post by samsloan
In no way did I criticize them for
attending the conference. To the contrary, I commended them for
attending the conference in Scotland, just as long as the USCF and its
members do not have to pay for it.

Back handed compliment isn't it? Kinda like saying" I think out suit
is really fine. You butt doesn't look huge in it at all."

Post by samsloan
With regard to the third item that was removed, "False Claims by
Polgar" I posted this on September 2, which was three days ago. Mr.
Truong came on line several times in those three days and responded to
several other postings but never responded to this one.

There is noone to respond to Mohamed, er Sam, er Ismail? Heck.. who
are you?

Post by samsloan
It is perfectly obvious that the claim now appearing on the USCF
website that Polgar won the Woman's World Championship four times is
false, because everybody knows that she only won it one time. As to
the claim that Polgar is rated in the top three women in the world,
that is obviously false too as anyone can look at the official FIDE
rating list and see that Pia Cramling, a very feminine woman,

And just why did you use that adjective phrase? COming from a very
unmasculine man, I would think you more cautious.

Post by samsloan
is rated
number three in the world and Polgar is not even rated in the top ten.
As to the claim that Polgar was the first woman ever to qualify for
the ("Men's") World Championship Cycle, the fact is that Pia Cramling
played in several FIDE zonal and interzonal events in the world
championship cycle and Polgar has NEVER played in a FIDE zonal or
interzonal event, although she did play once in the 1993 PCA
interzonal (and finished last in a field of 54).
As to SteveTN's complaint, I would not have removed his posting if I
had been a moderator.

There are two reasons for that, Mohamed. First is that you are too
lazy and secondly is that the post didn't disparage you.

Post by samsloan
I would welcome his trying again to express his
views on the USCF Forum, and even trying to post my reply above.
Sam Sloan- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Rob(WHich-Mitch) Only banned for life person from Sloans message group!

[samsloan]

Rob(WHich-Mitch) Only banned for life person from Sloan's message group!

Right. You are the only "person" I have ever banned from my email
group, and I am so glad I did.

Sam Sloan

[Rob]

Post by samsloan

Rob(WHich-Mitch) Only banned for life person from Sloan's message group!

Right. You are the only "person" I have ever banned from my email
group, and I am so glad I did.
Sam Sloan

The stop spamming my emails with your group messages!

[samsloan]

Post by Rob

Post by samsloan

Rob(WHich-Mitch) Only banned for life person from Sloan's message group!

Right. You are the only "person" I have ever banned from my email
group, and I am so glad I did.
Sam Sloan

The stop spamming my emails with your group messages!

I do not know how you are getting my emails because I certainly am not
sending them to you.

Most likely you subscribed one of your many email groups to my group.

Sam Sloan

[Rob]

Post by samsloan

Rob(WHich-Mitch) Only banned for life person from Sloan's message group!

Right. You are the only "person" I have ever banned from my email
group, and I am so glad I did.
Sam Sloan

Point #1:

I defended Louis Blairs censureship of Sams postings on WIkipedia..

Point#2:

I questioned SLoansactions and HIPPA and EEOC violations leading him
to be censured and pubically reprimanded by the board.

Point#3:

I questioned SLoan about the material on his website and pointed out
how tastless and offensive it is to many people and degrading to women
and children.

Sloan then banned me from posting in his newsgroup yet he still sends
me emails from his newsgroup! I have requested he cease many times. If
I get any more solicitations from his group without an opportunity to
respond I will contact YAHOO and begim actions to having his group
disolved.

Below is the latest email from his group.
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Subject: [fide-chess] Re: Pal Benko's Endgame Laboratory has just been
published

Post by samsloan

Pal Benko's Endgame Laboratory has just been published today
Take a look athttp://www. amazon.com/ dp/0923891889

Sam, is this a new collection of updated columns or the one some of us
purchased some years ago?
I would buy either, since my old copies fell apart some years ago and
are preserved in a loose-leaf notebook, but more description of the
product would be nice.

I believe that you are probably referring to the 8.5 x 11 bound
photocopies of his old columns. These are referred to as the "Gray
Book" and the "Green Book".

Benko used to sell these at his lectures which is probably where you
obtained yours.

Unfortunately, Benko sold out of these several years ago and the man
who made them for him has changed jobs and lacks the capacity to make
any more.

My book just printed today is re-formatted into a 6x9 book plus it has
a table of contents and an index which the Gray Book and the Green
Book did not have. The Gray Book covered the years 1981 to 1990 so
every column in my book is also in the Gray Book but I feel that you
will find my book to be much more useful because it will fit on a
normal bookshelf and it is better bound, has a much better cover, has
a brief biography and pictures of Benko, has a table of contents and
an index and will not fall apart over time as you report has happened
to your copy of the Gray Book.

Sam Sloan

__._,_.___

[samsloan]

Post by Rob

Post by samsloan

Rob(WHich-Mitch) Only banned for life person from Sloan's message group!

Right. You are the only "person" I have ever banned from my email
group, and I am so glad I did.
Sam Sloan

I defended Louis Blairs censureship of Sams postings on WIkipedia..
I questioned SLoansactions and HIPPA and EEOC violations leading him
to be censured and pubically reprimanded by the board.
I questioned SLoan about the material on his website and pointed out
how tastless and offensive it is to many people and degrading to women
and children.
Sloan then banned me from posting in his newsgroup yet he still sends
me emails from his newsgroup! I have requested he cease many times. If
I get any more solicitations from his group without an opportunity to
respond I will contact YAHOO and begim actions to having his group
disolved.
Below is the latest email from his group.

"Rob Mitchell" has been posting videos to my email group again,
impersonating me.

For those new to this group, "Rob Mitchell" is a person I banned from
my group for refusing to identify himself, in violation of the only
rule of my group, and he has retaliated ever since by flooding this
group with these videos, under my name.

The Real Sam Sloan

[Rob]

Post by samsloan

Post by Rob

Post by samsloan

Rob(WHich-Mitch) Only banned for life person from Sloan's message group!

Right. You are the only "person" I have ever banned from my email
group, and I am so glad I did.
Sam Sloan

I defended Louis Blairs censureship of Sams postings on WIkipedia..
I questioned SLoansactions and HIPPA and EEOC violations leading him
to be censured and pubically reprimanded by the board.
I questioned SLoan about the material on his website and pointed out
how tastless and offensive it is to many people and degrading to women
and children.
Sloan then banned me from posting in his newsgroup yet he still sends
me emails from his newsgroup! I have requested he cease many times. If
I get any more solicitations from his group without an opportunity to
respond I will contact YAHOO and begim actions to having his group
disolved.
Below is the latest email from his group.

"Rob Mitchell" has been posting videos to my email group again,
impersonating me.
For those new to this group, "Rob Mitchell" is a person I banned from
my group for refusing to identify himself, in violation of the only
rule of my group, and he has retaliated ever since by flooding this
group with these videos, under my name.
The Real Sam Sloan

More lies by Mohamed Sloan. This is really sad. The boy bans me from
his group and then sends me emails about his group. Not only can I not
post to his group to reply to attacks against me I certainly do not
have the skill or interest to post videos to his group.

This is a sad shell of a once promising mind. He could have been a
contender, but mental illness and obvious personality flaws have
relegated him to the position of gadfly in a small niche' interest
group.

Again, STOP sending me posts from your group . It is under your TOS as
group moderator to prevent this. You have been informed of this
discrepancy and I expect you to comply.

And I doubt that you are the real Sam Sloan since there is no person
who goes by that name. Use your legal name or cease being a fraud.

Rob (Which-Mitch)

[samsloan]

The members of my FIDE-chess Yahoo Group are getting fed up with your
flooding my group with unwanted videos which you did again yesterday.

So just get over the fact that you will not be allowed back into my
email group and try to find something else to do with your life.

Sam Sloan

[Rob]

Post by samsloan
The members of my FIDE-chess Yahoo Group are getting fed up with your
flooding my group with unwanted videos which you did again yesterday.
So just get over the fact that you will not be allowed back into my
email group and try to find something else to do with your life.
Sam Sloan

Just get over the fact that I am not you personal boogey-man. I didn't
send anything to your group. I could care less about being let into
your silly group. What I do not like is you continually sending me
emails from your group. Get over yourself. For the record, again "Mo",
I did not , have not and do not know anything about your group
postings.

I suggest you do your job as moderator of your silly "vanity press"
newsgroup and stop sending me posts. I dont care how you do it.
Otherwise I will inform Yahoo how you started the group to attack and
impugne the reputations of your enimies in the USCF.

I doubt that afterwards you will be allowed to continue spamming me or
anyone else let alone slander them.

Grow up "Mo"

Rob (Which-Mitch)

[Ray Gordon, creator of the pivot]

Post by Rob
And I doubt that you are the real Sam Sloan since there is no person
who goes by that name. Use your legal name or cease being a fraud.
Rob (Which-Mitch)- Hide quoted text -

Just look for Sam Sloan's name in the sex offenders registry.

[Ray Gordon, creator of the pivot]

Post by Rob

Post by samsloan

Post by Rob

Post by samsloan

Rob(WHich-Mitch) Only banned for life person from Sloan's message group!

Right. You are the only "person" I have ever banned from my email
group, and I am so glad I did.
Sam Sloan

I defended Louis Blairs censureship of Sams postings on WIkipedia..
I questioned SLoansactions and HIPPA and EEOC violations leading him
to be censured and pubically reprimanded by the board.
I questioned SLoan about the material on his website and pointed out
how tastless and offensive it is to many people and degrading to women
and children.
Sloan then banned me from posting in his newsgroup yet he still sends
me emails from his newsgroup! I have requested he cease many times. If
I get any more solicitations from his group without an opportunity to
respond I will contact YAHOO and begim actions to having his group
disolved.
Below is the latest email from his group.

"Rob Mitchell" has been posting videos to my email group again,
impersonating me.
For those new to this group, "Rob Mitchell" is a person I banned from
my group for refusing to identify himself, in violation of the only
rule of my group, and he has retaliated ever since by flooding this
group with these videos, under my name.
The Real Sam Sloan

More lies by Mohamed Sloan. This is really sad. The boy bans me from
his group and then sends me emails about his group. Not only can I not
post to his group to reply to attacks against me I certainly do not
have the skill or interest to post videos to his group.
This is a sad shell of a once promising mind. He could have been a
contender, but mental illness and obvious personality flaws have
relegated him to the position of gadfly in a small niche' interest
group.
Again, STOP sending me posts from your group . It is under your TOS as
group moderator to prevent this. You have been informed of this
discrepancy and I expect you to comply.
And I doubt that you are the real Sam Sloan since there is no person
who goes by that name. Use your legal name or cease being a fraud.
Rob (Which-Mitch)- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Ken Sloan = Good guy

Sam Sloan = Asshole

[n***@nospam.com]

Post by Rob
Sloan then banned me from posting in his newsgroup

Please don't call things newsgroups when they are actually
Yahoo groups. Not the same thing at all.

Post by Rob
yet he still sends me emails from his newsgroup! I have
requested he cease many times.

Report every one to Spamcop. www.spamcop.net. That will get
him shut down in a hurry if he keeps sending unwanted email.

[Rob]

Post by n***@nospam.com

Post by Rob
Sloan then banned me from posting in his newsgroup

Please don't call things newsgroups when they are actually
Yahoo groups. Not the same thing at all.

Post by Rob
yet he still sends me emails from his newsgroup! I have
requested he cease many times.

Report every one to Spamcop. www.spamcop.net. That will get
him shut down in a hurry if he keeps sending unwanted email.

Thanks! I will use that service.

[samsloan]

Post by Rob

Post by n***@nospam.com

Post by Rob
Sloan then banned me from posting in his newsgroup

Please don't call things newsgroups when they are actually
Yahoo groups. Not the same thing at all.

Post by Rob
yet he still sends me emails from his newsgroup! I have
requested he cease many times.

Report every one to Spamcop. www.spamcop.net. That will get
him shut down in a hurry if he keeps sending unwanted email.

Thanks! I will use that service.

I am sure that "spamcop" will tell you that if you want to stop
receiving email from a Yahoo Group, you should unsubscribe from that
group.

Sam Sloan

[Rob]

Post by samsloan

Post by Rob

Post by n***@nospam.com

Post by Rob
Sloan then banned me from posting in his newsgroup

Please don't call things newsgroups when they are actually
Yahoo groups. Not the same thing at all.

Post by Rob
yet he still sends me emails from his newsgroup! I have
requested he cease many times.

Report every one to Spamcop. www.spamcop.net. That will get
him shut down in a hurry if he keeps sending unwanted email.

Thanks! I will use that service.

I am sure that "spamcop" will tell you that if you want to stop
receiving email from a Yahoo Group, you should unsubscribe from that
group.
Sam Sloan

Hey Mo,
How can I unsubscribe from a group I am not a member of?
I am Banned for life.
I don't care to have any communications from you sent to my email. It
is your responsibility to manage your group. Do it or lose it!

[Rob]

You may wish to join Sloan's group before it is gone or you may not.
He has again violated the TOS of yahoogroups and been reported.

Rob(which-Mitch)
http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/FIDE_CHESS/join

[samsloan]

Post by Rob
You may wish to join Sloan's group before it is gone or you may not.
He has again violated the TOS of yahoogroups and been reported.
Rob(which-Mitch)http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/FIDE_CHESS/join

The above is NOT the address of my Yahoo email group.

It is the address of Rob Mitchell's email group.

He is such a sick puppy that he is trying to trick you into joining
his group.

To tell the difference, my group has more than 350 members. His group
has less than ten members.

Sam Sloan

[Kenneth Sloan]

Post by samsloan

Post by Rob
You may wish to join Sloan's group before it is gone or you may not.
He has again violated the TOS of yahoogroups and been reported.
Rob(which-Mitch)http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/FIDE_CHESS/join

The above is NOT the address of my Yahoo email group.
It is the address of Rob Mitchell's email group.
He is such a sick puppy that he is trying to trick you into joining
his group.
To tell the difference, my group has more than 350 members. His group
has less than ten members.
Sam Sloan

How many of your members where signed up without asking their permission?

[Chess One]

Post by Kenneth Sloan

Post by samsloan

Post by Rob
You may wish to join Sloan's group before it is gone or you may not.
He has again violated the TOS of yahoogroups and been reported.
Rob(which-Mitch)http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/FIDE_CHESS/join

The above is NOT the address of my Yahoo email group.
It is the address of Rob Mitchell's email group.
He is such a sick puppy that he is trying to trick you into joining
his group.
To tell the difference, my group has more than 350 members. His group
has less than ten members.

Sam Sloan's group has a half dozen active writers, but 50% of the
contributions are from himself [also copied here, alt legal, to hungary and
vietnam, plus alt.nutz@ and usually are re-posts from the USCF forum plus
the /de riguer/ questions about Susan Polgar and her husband Jesse James
MacTruong.

Not that I am a gossip or anything, but I understand he bought a kilt while
in Scotland, the MacTruongs being affiliated since 1746 with the
Mitchell/Innes/MacStruan clans of cut-your-throat rabid Jacobite Catholic
opium-smuggling gangsters.

Cordially, Dirk Hamish

Post by Kenneth Sloan

Post by samsloan
Sam Sloan

How many of your members where signed up without asking their permission?

ps: have you sloans ever looked up your own kilts? that's a joke you see.
seriously, there may be highland-sloans about [lowlander sloans are no
better than english and can be ignored] or even an old castle? if there are
mac-computers why not macsloans?

Post by Kenneth Sloan
--
Computer and Information Sciences [phone]
University of Alabama at Birmingham FAX [phone]
Birmingham, AL 35294-1170 http://www.cis.uab.edu/sloan/

[Ray Gordon, creator of the pivot]

Post by Kenneth Sloan
Computer and Information Sciences [phone]
University of Alabama at Birmingham FAX [phone]
Birmingham, AL 35294-1170 http://www.cis.uab.edu/sloan/- Hide quoted text -

Kenneth Sloan and Sam Sloan. Are they related?

[Kenneth Sloan]

Post by Ray Gordon, creator of the pivot

Post by Kenneth Sloan
Computer and Information Sciences [phone]
University of Alabama at Birmingham FAX [phone]
Birmingham, AL 35294-1170 http://www.cis.uab.edu/sloan/- Hide quoted text -

Kenneth Sloan and Sam Sloan. Are they related?

Ray Gordon and Flash Gordon. Are they related?

[samsloan]

On Sep 14, 7:12 am, "Ray Gordon, creator of the pivot"

Post by Ray Gordon, creator of the pivot

Post by Kenneth Sloan
Computer and Information Sciences [phone]
University of Alabama at Birmingham FAX [phone]
Birmingham, AL 35294-1170 http://www.cis.uab.edu/sloan/-Hide quoted text -

Kenneth Sloan and Sam Sloan. Are they related?

I am an original Sloan. I believe that I am most likely a descendant
of Archibald Sloan (before 1697 - 1764) who came from Ireland in about
1715 and settled in Lancaster County Pennsylvania.

Kenneth Sloan is an interloper. I believe that his family came from
Eastern Europe or Russia somewhere with an unpronouncable name and
changed it to Sloan.

Sam Sloan

[Rob]

Post by samsloan
On Sep 14, 7:12 am, "Ray Gordon, creator of the pivot"

Post by Ray Gordon, creator of the pivot

Post by Kenneth Sloan
Computer and Information Sciences [phone]
University of Alabama at Birmingham FAX [phone]
Birmingham, AL 35294-1170 http://www.cis.uab.edu/sloan/-Hidequoted text -

Kenneth Sloan and Sam Sloan. Are they related?

I am an original Sloan. I believe that I am most likely a descendant
of Archibald Sloan (before 1697 - 1764) who came from Ireland in about
1715 and settled in Lancaster County Pennsylvania.
Kenneth Sloan is an interloper. I believe that his family came from
Eastern Europe or Russia somewhere with an unpronouncable name and
changed it to Sloan.
Sam Sloan

Mohamed Sloan wishes he had Kenneth Sloan's intelligence.

[samsloan]

Post by Rob
Mohamed Sloan wishes he had Kenneth Sloan's intelligence.

Neither of us wishes to have Rob ("Which Mitch") Mitchell's
intelligence.

Sam Sloan

[Rob]

Post by samsloan

Post by Rob
Mohamed Sloan wishes he had Kenneth Sloan's intelligence.

Neither of us wishes to have Rob ("Which Mitch") Mitchell's
intelligence.
Sam Sloan

I am maybe half as smart as Kenneth and twice as smart as you. SO I
gues that makes you a quarter-wit! Mo

[Anonymoose]

I always thought they were gay lovers

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Post by Anonymoose
I always thought they were gay lovers

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Post by samsloan

Post by Ray Gordon, creator of the pivot
Kenneth Sloan and Sam Sloan. Are they related?

Certainly; they both play chess!

Post by samsloan
I am an original Sloan. I believe that I am most likely a descendant
of Archibald Sloan (before 1697 - 1764) who came from Ireland in about
1715 and settled in Lancaster County Pennsylvania.

In that case you ought to have kept the same name; don't
go in for spurious fashions -- there is nothing wrong with the
name Archibald, or Archie for short.

Post by samsloan
Kenneth Sloan is an interloper. I believe that his family came from
Eastern Europe or Russia somewhere with an unpronouncable name and
changed it to Sloan.

Ah, Kennetharic Bolasloanski, or something like that?
However, this fails to account for why he is not very
good at chess; many Russians who come over here
say they can beat us all like carrots. But after being
here a while and getting dumbed down a bit, they too
go vegetable-chess.


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Post by samsloan
On Sep 14, 7:12 am, "Ray Gordon, creator of the pivot"

Post by Ray Gordon, creator of the pivot

Post by Kenneth Sloan
Computer and Information Sciences [phone]
University of Alabama at Birmingham FAX [phone]
Birmingham, AL 35294-1170 http://www.cis.uab.edu/sloan/-Hide
quoted text -

Kenneth Sloan and Sam Sloan. Are they related?

I am an original Sloan. I believe that I am most likely a descendant
of Archibald Sloan (before 1697 - 1764) who came from Ireland in about
1715 and settled in Lancaster County Pennsylvania.

It has an interesting root in Anglo Saxon; SLO; to slay, SLON; sly; then to
SLONE: (1) the sloe [West] and also (2) to slay [A. Sax] also spelled SLOON,
slayed, killed.

I hade catelle ; now have i non :
Thay take my bestis and don tham slone.

/MS Cantab, Ff v 48 f 47

the same as SLOGHE [ and here is your Irish, q-Celtic]

And moche schame we byt do,
And caste hyt in a fowle sloo.

/MS Cantab, Ff v 38 f 35

SLOUGH: a husk [North]; to slay to kill
SLOGHE: a bog, a muddy pit

or of the pitte, or of the sloghe,
If thou3te him thanne good y-nowe.

/Gower, MS Soc Antiq. 134 f 58

SLOWE: a moth

SLOWEN: slew [A. Sax.]

SLOWNES: sloth [A. Sax.]

SLOUNGE: an idle fellow, see also SLOVEN; a rascal, a knave.

Post by samsloan
Kenneth Sloan is an interloper. I believe that his family came from
Eastern Europe or Russia somewhere with an unpronouncable name and
changed it to Sloan.

Presumably in all innocence?

Phil Innes

Post by samsloan
Sam Sloan

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Post by samsloan
On Sep 14, 7:12 am, "Ray Gordon, creator of the pivot"

Post by Ray Gordon, creator of the pivot

Post by Kenneth Sloan
Computer and Information Sciences [phone]
University of Alabama at Birmingham FAX [phone]
Birmingham, AL 35294-1170 http://www.cis.uab.edu/sloan/-Hide
quoted text -

Kenneth Sloan and Sam Sloan. Are they related?

I am an original Sloan. I believe that I am most likely a descendant
of Archibald Sloan (before 1697 - 1764) who came from Ireland in about
1715 and settled in Lancaster County Pennsylvania.

It has an interesting root in Anglo Saxon; SLO; to slay, SLON; sly; then to
SLONE: (1) the sloe [West] and also (2) to slay [A. Sax] also spelled SLOON,
slayed, killed.
Thay take my bestis and don tham slone.
/MS Cantab, Ff v 48 f 47
the same as SLOGHE [ and here is your Irish, q-Celtic]
And moche schame we byt do,
And caste hyt in a fowle sloo.
/MS Cantab, Ff v 38 f 35
SLOUGH: a husk [North]; to slay to kill
SLOGHE: a bog, a muddy pit
or of the pitte, or of the sloghe,
If thou3te him thanne good y-nowe.
/Gower, MS Soc Antiq. 134 f 58
SLOWE: a moth
SLOWEN: slew [A. Sax.]
SLOWNES: sloth [A. Sax.]
SLOUNGE: an idle fellow, see also SLOVEN; a rascal, a knave.

Post by samsloan
Kenneth Sloan is an interloper. I believe that his family came from
Eastern Europe or Russia somewhere with an unpronouncible name and
changed it to Sloan.

Presumably in all innocence?
Phil Innes

Somewhat interesting. Nobody seems to know where the name "Sloan" came
from but there is a recognized Sloan Family Coat of Arms. The Sloan
name comes from Northern Ireland. The most commonly heard theory is
that the name Sloan was derived from O'Shaughnessy.

Since Phil ("Nearly an IM") Innes seems interested in these things I
will tell him that on my mother's mother's mother's side we are Scot
and my family name on that side is McRobert.

http://www.samsloan.com/pafg08.htm#4226

None of my ancestors came through Ellis Island, as they all got to
America before that. My most recent ancestor arrived from Sweden in
1869. My earliest ancestor to arrive in America came from Sweden to
Delaware probably in 1640 although this is not certain.

My ancestors fought in the American Revolutionary War on both my
father's and mother's side.

Sam Sloan

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Post by samsloan
On Sep 14, 7:12 am, "Ray Gordon, creator of the pivot"

Post by Ray Gordon, creator of the pivot

Post by Kenneth Sloan
Computer and Information Sciences [phone]
University of Alabama at Birmingham FAX [phone]
Birmingham, AL 35294-1170
http://www.cis.uab.edu/sloan/-Hide
quoted text -

Kenneth Sloan and Sam Sloan. Are they related?

I am an original Sloan. I believe that I am most likely a descendant
of Archibald Sloan (before 1697 - 1764) who came from Ireland in about
1715 and settled in Lancaster County Pennsylvania.

It has an interesting root in Anglo Saxon; SLO; to slay, SLON; sly; then to
SLONE: (1) the sloe [West] and also (2) to slay [A. Sax] also spelled SLOON,
slayed, killed.
Thay take my bestis and don tham slone.
/MS Cantab, Ff v 48 f 47
the same as SLOGHE [ and here is your Irish, q-Celtic]
And moche schame we byt do,
And caste hyt in a fowle sloo.
/MS Cantab, Ff v 38 f 35
SLOUGH: a husk [North]; to slay to kill
SLOGHE: a bog, a muddy pit
or of the pitte, or of the sloghe,
If thou3te him thanne good y-nowe.
/Gower, MS Soc Antiq. 134 f 58
SLOWE: a moth
SLOWEN: slew [A. Sax.]
SLOWNES: sloth [A. Sax.]
SLOUNGE: an idle fellow, see also SLOVEN; a rascal, a knave.

Post by samsloan
Kenneth Sloan is an interloper. I believe that his family came from
Eastern Europe or Russia somewhere with an unpronouncible name and
changed it to Sloan.

Presumably in all innocence?
Phil Innes

Somewhat interesting. Nobody seems to know where the name "Sloan" came
from

Very often I suspect the Sloan family's deafness is itself the reason for
such statements - since they can then, despite citations from 3 linked
languages, still say 'nobody ... knows'.

Post by samsloan
but there is a recognized Sloan Family Coat of Arms. The Sloan
name comes from Northern Ireland. The most commonly heard theory is
that the name Sloan was derived from O'Shaughnessy.

From the north of Ireland at what time? Perhaps the migrations in the year
1000, or later, to Liverpool and the US any time up to the potato famine?

Post by samsloan
Since Phil ("Nearly an IM") Innes seems interested in these things I

ah! just in the words themselves, not the "I" part

Post by samsloan
will tell him that on my mother's mother's mother's side we are Scot
and my family name on that side is McRobert.

From Braemar? There is an interesting title; 'Gaelic Poems Collected in
Braemar', 1926, the Reverend Charles Robertson.

Post by samsloan
http://www.samsloan.com/pafg08.htm#4226
None of my ancestors came through Ellis Island, as they all got to
America before that. My most recent ancestor arrived from Sweden in
1869. My earliest ancestor to arrive in America came from Sweden to
Delaware probably in 1640 although this is not certain.

That would be very early - a freeman or a bondsman or a Company man?

Post by samsloan
My ancestors fought in the American Revolutionary War on both my
father's and mother's side.

Hopefully on the same side!

Nach truagh ri innseadh gum biodh na mìltean
De anamain prìseal cho anabarra dall
Is gun tèid iad dìreach an aghaidh na fìrinn

Which is a warning against the low culture of the lowlands, and indeed, on
the cause of war.

Terrible to say, but there were thousands
Of precious souls which were exceedingly blind
And they were in direct opposition to the truth.

// Pàdraig Grannd

Phil Innes

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Sam Sloan